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A slap to the face

Oct edit: A while back I left this message on vekter's going away thread, it was quickly deleted but i thought you all should still be able to see it:

I remember when you wanted to blacklist somebody based on highly context devoid screenshots suggesting he was a chaser and the kind of person who gets angry when told no by women and we got in an 3 hour long argument in the batcaves about it followed by a 2 hour long pm argument where you called me sheltered (despite the two women on the headmin team (dendy and tattle) agreeing with me 100% about it) until i trauma dumped about getting sexually abused and/or sexually assaulted by 4 women and 1 man before i turned 16 and then you didn't even apologize while pretending that shitty stereotypes about (some) men never bleed over into other men despite that being the entire premises behind intersec​tional femi​nism.

Anywho. Scriptis recently pmed me and admitted my blacklist reason is a lie and that im blacklisted because he disagrees with how I characterized my removal as "unhinged" and not because of any kf postings given he said i could be let back in if i just agreed with his version of events and instead i just spat in his face. im also gonna post a nice juicy post to kf to ensure he never ever fucking tires that again. i don't want to be unblacklisted so long as he wants to lie about why i'm blacklisted.

I'm posting on my players club viewing alt because i'm leaving the internet and pe​rma touching grass. so i don't care when this gets banned.

I quit weed. I'm not even a mister anymore, and early this month i went into a goth bdsm-lite clubbing event in bell town (seattle) and made out with the cutest fucking short haired chick after she pointed at me and demanded i dance with her. [b][i][u]Nothing validates all my inc​el m​ra ramblings on androp​hobia being a barrier to dating for autis​tic men as how much easier i've been able to connect with women on both intimate and platonic levels now that i don't have to contend with shitty stereotypes and ideals about men and masculinity.[/b][/i][/u]

An0n3 was right about this community. I spent so long and so much anxiety trying to get you all to believe me and now i don't even give a fuck. I see it so clearly now. I regret every second i spend in this god awful community. If i had left sooner i would have transitioned sooner and enjoyed life sooner (also i've been on the verge of homelessness most of my time as host but kassie gets 5 times as many interviews as kyle ever did, but thats seattle's progressive space for you). Why did I waste so much fucking mental energy trying to get you to believe me on how society views men and masculinity and mras? God i was fucking stupid…. I wasted 10 years of my life over that shit.

Oh ya, the topic.

i'm sad to see you go vekter. /tg/ really deserved to have you as an admin, and you really deserved to have /tg/ as a community. and i mean both of those statements in all the worst ways. Eat a dick you androphobic piece of shit.


Also, I left a comment on dendy's feedback thread that was also deleted:

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Aug edit: image scriptis admits that my blacklist reason is a lie and im only blacklisted because he disagrees with how i view what happened, not because of anything that happened at kiwifarms

May 22 2025 edit: So i heard scriptis is still claiming to posts in the players club that i doxxed him on kiwifarms so feel free to have a gander at all of my posts, they can be found here: https://kiwifarms.st/threads/space-station-13-and-its-successors-communities.208847 starting around page 30 i think. See if you agree.

tl;dr:

  1. Admins mock a player for expressing minor discomfort at being forced to play as a girl,
  2. I understand that it wouldn't be acceptable to mock them if they were a trans man getting dysphoria from it thus it is not acceptable to mock a cis man for it let a lone a man who's cis or trans status is unknown.
  3. This starts a fight in the admin channels.
  4. In response to that fight people said misandrist shit and got timed out or deadmined for it.
  5. A ex-headmin crashes out on me going mask off visiting my sex life and implying i that i only care about misandry and male rape victims because i hate women because i can get laid.
  6. I blacklist her for the sexually harassing visiting my sex life stuff.
  7. the entire admin team protests in support of her sexism and sexual harassment
  8. I stop hosting the servers, rage quit the community, and tell kiwifarms how we stop ban evaders and ddosers. (mostly done off the backs of my work, so im free to take it back if the community wants to stab me in the back.)
  9. /tg/station blacklists me in retaliation for shutting down the servers.
  10. When this gets push back as not enough for a blacklist, they slander up a lie that I helped kiwifarm's dox Scriptis (the new host), and then retract it when i point out it was slander (only to continue to repeat it in the players club months).

Edit: Random aside I am now taking HRT.

Edit2: I will never stop saying that visiting a woman's sexual history to attack her opinions is a form of sexual harassment, regardless of what gender you fill in instead of woman. Die mad about it

edit: If you want to know more about my trans gender story, I have a new post on my blog: https://abearinthewoods.tumblr.com/post/776973517307707392/egg-story

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Now you are getting it! Now you understand why I was so willing to be as harsh off the cuff as I've been.

So I ugh..... I found out about the player club discussion.... That should make it even more clear. Their giving a fuck about basic compassion and empathy towards any group is predicated on their ability to use it to navigate the social hierarchy. The moment they can gain more by being mean or cruel or bigoted towards those same groups they will. Its highschool bully culture.

If caring about gender equality is predicated the people asking for it being charismatic and uncringe about it, then the empathy was fake to begain with. If respecting pronouns can be ignored because you don't like how harshly or meanly the person reacted to what they preceived as bigotry against their identity (at the time), then the person never actually cared about trans people, just the social consequences of not caring about trans people.

Most of what I brought up is still valid, the fact I was hyper aware of the ways in which men get treated differently because being treated like a man gave me intense gender dysphoria that i was confusing for a more basic emotional reaction to sexism doesn't actually change that I brought up such differences, i expressed how they were emotionally impacting me, and because it didn't have the framing of a group you aren't allowed to hate for those emotions (Trans/dysphoria), 90% of this community slapped me in the face for it.

Most of you don't have real empathy and would jump at the chance to bully a vulnerable person to suicide if it was socially advantageous to your position on the hierarchy to do so. The only difference between you and kiwifarms is they don't lie to themselves half as much about it.

When I made the ban appeals and initial coming out posts, I had only came out myself 2 weeks ago and my best friend 2 days ago. Since than I've already started the Process for Informed Consent HRT. I wasn't sure than. I am now. (Yes, i'm talking to you cptant)

Please refer to me using femininepronouns (She/Her) and the first name of ♡Riley♡ (Non-binary pronouns acceptable) (Hearts optional).

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(PS: I posted the above image to pol-con like 3 some months ago when I first updated my pronouns to he/they. Most of me thought i was joking, part of me knew I wasn't. Anybody paying attention knew that day. As to how/why/what? 'I Am A Transwoman. I Am In The Closet. I Am Not Coming Out.' cracked my egg. The bit at the end, the "complex reasons" shes in the closet, resonated with me on a very deeeeeeeeeeeeeeep level. That seed took about as long to show its effects as hrt does.)

importaint edit you are not alone, I have gotten many pms of support for my positions and people wondering if i will make a new server or help them with theirs. (No plans there.)

also for the record edit: please stop harassing and being mean to people just for being my friend. Its petty and making me look like the mature one.


Stay tuned on https://tgstation13.download (which i, not oranges, control) for links to:

  • A dump of the wiki
  • A copy of every player save
  • A preseeded database sql file with all of our public bans (minus ips/cids/etc) and also our player job hours and player account age.

This may be the end of /tg/station, but any forks that start up will be able to jump out of the gate without the normal bootstraping issues.

Sybil and Manuel's shared player saves: https://tgstation13.download/sybil-manny_saves.only.json.tar.gz extract "here" in the data folder.

UPDATED WIKI LINK

page-and-filedump.xml.gz Wikidump with images. 1.1GB packed, 2.7GB unpacked (Import guide) *FIXED LINK* (old link was just until 2018)

job/role time sql dump

https://tgstation13.download/role_time.sql.gz

These screenshots have already been leaked by other admins:

There are no messages by wubli inbetween these screenshots.

This is wubli, ex head-game-admin of /tg/station 13. The message she is replying to is me expressing fustration with everybody claiming i'm an emotional wreak who was only de-admining or banning people because i didn't like them (and not because i had an issue with the prejudge they were expressing) by pointing out that if this was true, i would have deadmined wubli ages ago.

{"ID": 1329607566799536200, "Timestamp": "2025-01-17 00:25:46", "Contents": "everytime somebody implies my actions are based out of not liking somebody or personal offense or shit like that i just think to my self, hehe if that were true wubli wouldn't still be around.", "Attachments": ""}

wubli1

The fact I hate wubli isn't news, me and her have said we hated eachother many times since before the pandemic, I don't like how much she thinks or implies men can/should be judged by their affinity with women (this is the driver behind slutshaming, if women are the social gatekeepers than sluts are poor keepers, a real feminist wouldn't be spewing it). We have a community full of autistic socially anxious gamers of all genders and this kind of attutide can not be allowed in such a space.

As for why she hates me, well she's claimed the only reason I care about male rape victims is because I hate women and want to take away from their advocacy, and not because I am one, when I call out misandry she always seems to have some personal attack on me strawmanning the real reason i am addressing it. So if i had to guess, i'd say its because shes having a reactionary response to the idea of mens advocacy.

She makes a mention to the rule on bigotry, but this is a half truth, I and many other admins at the time thought "don't be a dick" (rule 1) was sufficient but insisted any rule the headmins came up with didn't just focus on words or slurs while allowing for bigoted rhetoric because trolls are very good at abusing that to being vaguely bigoted while baiting out a reactionary slur in response; and also required it be two way. Rules against sexism should protect men, rules against intentional misgendering people should cover calling intentionally calling a guy the other gender as an attack, regardless of trans or cis, etc.

She held up putting her +1 on a rule because she didn't want sexism protections to cover men and so it didn't get passed in her headmin term which she blames me for for insisting it have such a protection or i would veto it. (I ended up having to make one later when hippiestation shutdown and "sent their best" because this deadlock persisted into other head admin terms over arguments like the covering of ableism or if use vs mention should be considered)

as for the final paragraph, remember this. She knows im autistic, a MRA, and have anxieties around discourse about androphobia like with bear vs man.

wubli2

(background) A guy who had their ability to change their character restricted to randomly rolled characters because they abused that ability expressed in a ban appeal minor annoyance at having to play female characters. I view this as an expression of gender disphoria even if it comes from a cis person, but the argument wan't over that, Sometimes you have to play different characters from your own, suck it up, and its a mild discomfort they expressed, not "i refuse to play"; the argument (which was happening in another channel and she was just fanning the flames on from this channel) was over rather or not admins or players should be allowed to mock them for it, which wouldn't be allowed if they were out as a trans man and i don't think trans men should have to out themselves for this consideration so we must also give it to cis men. (and the same for the other gender). (I also think we should stop mocking men for their insecurities because mocking people for their insecurities tends to reinforce their insecurities. and this includes casting it as a scarlett letter that can be used to dismiss their opinions or emotion reactions as fueled by the insecurity so their opinions can be ignored or emotions deliberately tiggered)

Apparently this is making the server a worse place for women and lgbt(q) people.

wubli3

Remember what I said above. Here she goes stoking my anxities, driving the knife in. Here she is doing this to the most powerful autistic person in the room, how does she treat the ones she has power over?

At the age of 12 I fucking held the door shut with my 2 brothers against my firefighter step father while my mother called 911 with blood all over her.

At the age of 30 I did it again agaisnt my roommate while his girlfriend used my cell to call the police because he took hers.

On my dad's side I have 3 sisters, on my mom's side I have another.

But she knows I have a lot of anxities about expections on men to prove they are worthy to be around women or be casted as a loser who's opinion can be dismissed as that of. and to be clear, my anxities are around the latter part of that, that if for some reason, i fail to prove my worth to women, it can becomes a scarlett letter by other people used to dismiss my voice in general.

wubli4

"ANY MAN WHO HAS A WOMEN WHO LOVES THEM WILL NOT FEEL ATTACKED BY A HYPOTHETICAL SCENARIO"

This was the line. I was already seeing red but this is what drove me over the line into not caring about the social consequences of using my power to remove her from the community.

Two issues. Shes implying this about me because of the opinion I expressed. that it must mean I have never felt the love of a women which is being uno reversed to then dismiss that opinion. both of these are wrong. I don't like living under a world that views men with suspicion and than tries to reverse justify that suspicion by if they have a stoic response to that suspicion or an emotional response. That is why I have the opinion I have.

But the second half, mocking me for supposively never feeling the love of a women, casting me as a loser for it, saying my viewpoints can be dismissed for it. Its been slightly repeated in these screenshots but laid more clearly here. I've just decided that kind of shit is not something I'm going to tolerate anymore. I read this line and knew I was going to have to do what I've wanted to do since the first time she showed me how much of a misandrist she is.

The worth of a mans opinions can not be predicated on him getting action, nor love. The fact we do this, cast or mock men as losers or unworthy, is what creates men who base their self worth on what a woman thinks of them. Its what creates men who get emotionally compromised when his love interest doesn't think well of him. He thinks its an attack on his worth as a human because we as a society programmed him to think this.

When we hear from trans people how invalidating if feels hearing their deadname or deadgender we show them empathy and shun people who don't.

When we hear from women (and co) how invalidating and dismissive it feels hearing people dismiss the opinions of other women (or theirselves) based off an assumption that they are on their period, we show them empathy and shun people who don't.

When we hear from autistic men (and co) how invalidating and dismissive it feels hearing people dismiss the opinions of other men (or theirselves) based off assumptions that they are virgin neck bearded losers, we... What? Mock them for having that feeling? Tell them to get to therapy until it doesn't affect them anymore? Say they should just man up and tough it out because men aren't suppose to have emotional reactions unless they are convenient?

I once called an admin out in admin bus because they said something that I (and a head admin) misunderstood to be blaming a player's behavior on her period.

I didn't know that head-admins (like tattle) were in headmin-bus talking about de-admining them over it until my callout exposed the the misunderstanding.

So clearly we understand that using unrelated bullshit to be dismissive towards peoples opinions is bad and doing it in ways that are gendered is bad so what gives?

A slap to the face

Resigning control of the discord was a very emotionally difficult decision. Mixed in was worries that my overreactions would be used to excuse the things I was initially mad at, and a distaste for the ever growing amount of people looking for my departure to undo everything that I ever did. I basically only did it out of a personal favor to burger, and sending this notice instead of acting out of anger is also a personal favor to burger.

I have seen how much deliberation happens for deadmining. Having my deadmin cave open within hours does not do well for my confidence that I was given a fair shake, and not the best thing to see so soon after said emotional moment. It felt like a slap to the face. because it was. Nothing would have harmed waiting 12 or 24 hours after. Everybody involved in opening that cave made remarks about how difficult of a decision that was, so you have no excuse.

I've also been reflecting back on how scriptis has acted during this and grow ever discouraged at giving him the rings. He repeatedly in PM used vulnerable or remarks about things that make me emotional as ammunition to dismiss the things I care about as just emotional fallout of unrelated events. (I remark how a tumblr comment misunderstanding me in a very mean way made me feel invalidated, 2 weeks later he's blaming that for why I care about something unrelated as me needing to get off the internet and stop letting tumblr impact my emotions) I don't know why I didn't see this for the slap in the face it is until now, but I do see it that way now. I didn't talk that shit thru with you just so you could throw it back in my face later. "I care about something a lot, therefore my opinion on it and everything else should be dismissed."

I've can't see the inability to wait a few days or a week before undoing the automods as anything other than a slap in the face. There is a two parter of TNG you should watch if you can't see how that wasn't gonna come across as anything less than a slap in the face.

and then there is the horrible way omega handled the carmine appeal.

I think that the opinion that men have it worse in the society than women implicitly undermines the whole idea of fighting for equality. If we refuse to acknowledge the self-evidency of the fact that in most countries, including the country that I'm currently residing in, women very blatantly and obviously have it worse, with their hard-fought legal rights being taken away day by day, or where in some cases they didn't even have any legal rights in the first place, we're doing nothing but reinforcing the same systems that oppress both men and women. I think this is fascistic; besides, cult of masculinity and the idea that "women have it too good" were rather important to Mussolini's ideology, after all.

The mere expression of the idea that "'women have it worse' is the only correct opinion" (emphasis on the latter half) is itself an expression of misandry. There is no correct opinion here and the entire framing of arguments exploring the other direction as wrong or undermining women's equality is 1), favoring women's equality over men's equality, by giving it more tools to explore their inequality, and 2), plays into oppositional sexism brainworms that imply advocacy for one group will harm advocacy for another group.

This is why I had zero faith or trust in the DJ team to handle misandry conduct. You can't actually give men the same amount of empathy you give women. (also Boys will never adapt feminism if they keep having to hear arguments about how they have it better so have less standing to talk. Read some more bell hooks)

Anyways, the issue with the sudden 4 piece slap to the face not even a day after I gave up power, is You still need me. There are still accounts to be transferred over, billing access to setup, scriptis still don't have access to the ddos relay boxes, just the control panel, still don't have access to the aws for the ddos relay geo dns. Still don't have creds on some vms, still might need me to grant additional access for CF, still needs me for remote hands/kvm-ip/break glass interfaces if a box goes down before you replace it, and still has to rely on me to help with any sort of knowledge issue that comes up.

However I am entirely uninterested in lifting a finger to help this community if it is just gonna so quickly 180 my trust and slap me in the face 4 times over within hours. Everybody involved knew how emotional and difficult this whole thing was, and some time to recover from that before seeing everything undone would have been fucking appreciated.

So we need a path forward unless scriptis plans to be resigned to having to respond to access stumbling blocks by rebuilding that service from the ground up and risking eu or us-west going down before they can replace them with boxes on new accounts.

Edit: and I just found out wubli was allowed back on the team so ya i don't think there is a path forward.

Edit2: i look forward to finding out how omega excuses banning me from the discord.

Edit3: burger is stepping down because of omega banning me.

Edit4: the reason, that I had to learn from kiwifarms: "Denial of service of the TG servers he maintained control over to threaten headmins into reversing administrative decisions"

(How is it a denial of service attack to stop hosting a server I host after the leadership slaps me in the face? lol what?)

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CPTANT commented Mar 7, 2025

There is a reason I posted this to my tumblr and changed my discord to her name for a spell. https://abearinthewoods.tumblr.com/post/774451326550671360/if-i-tell-you-witcher-that-i-can-neither-forgive

The object of your holy vengeance crusade is that someone said mean words to you. You wouldn't be a monster, just an asshole.

I highly recommend against that course of action because it dumb and leads to the worst possible outcome for everyone involved including yourself. It's not cool, it's not justice, it's not edgy, you wouldn't make a point to anyone, it's just dumb. All because this "grrr grrr angry" feeling feels mildly good before making you feel even shittier.

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MrsTonedOne commented Mar 8, 2025

@LemonInTheDark

IDK bout this other shit

oranges can confirm most of it, only 4 people on the team know about the catfish incident, I forgot which 3 were headmin when it happened.

@justricky21

your pre-existing hatred is causing you to read something this simply isn't there.

Now that you know this wasn't the case maybe read thru all i've written but just, here me out, consider that maybe i know some things about the community I ran for almost 15 years and actually listen to the words I'm saying.

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justricky21 commented Mar 9, 2025

idk why you tagged me for something CPTANT said

I said my peace and am unfollowing the gist (apparently commenting adds it to your watchlist). Find something better to do fam. Going after /tg/ after it is made quite clear you don't want to be there and you're not wanted there is troll behaviour. Apply skin to grass.

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CPTANT commented Mar 9, 2025

Now that you know this wasn't the case maybe read thru all i've written but just, here me out, consider that maybe i know some things about the community I ran for almost 15 years and actually listen to the words I'm saying.

Honestly I don't really care, maybe you do find someone who thinks that way, it doesn't really change anything. Collectively punishing people is still dumb and will only show you are an asshole. Spend some time on your own happiness.

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From now until either I or /tg/station dies, I will have no other goal than to see /tg/station fail for being willing to let somebody who views a gender in that harmful/hateful way to have authority or presence within the community.

you can blame yourself for that. maybe you should have practised more absolute power over a community you hold hostage? maybe a lesson for the next community you will hold power over. crash out earlier and hold absolutely every asset forever.

there are communities who do much worse with much less voices of reason available. that makes me think theres more behind it than "they disrespect gender." why have you not set your sights on the Kiwi Farms for that? what about 4chan?

by the way, what about the money you still recieve from patreon? are you just pocketing it all? how much is used to host a 1 page website with a download service?

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i think it is ethically highly concerning that you just hijacked the tgstation domain on patreon, and let the people that previously paid for tgstation donate money into your pocket. tgstation13.download isnt even up right now. what are you taking money for?

imagine setting up a long term donation every month for an animal rescue. you forget about it over time. 5 years later it turns into a butchery instead. thats what you are doing. im happy that the king stoner finally pulled out, but what about the 52 other people? i highly doubt most of them know they are paying for you.

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